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EP 5: NBA Beefs - Cleveland 2018
Release Date: 02.21.2018
Produced by: Shaine Freeman

The laughs just don't stop this episode. Now that the NBA Trade Deadline has ended, and all of the hype and speculation of which players might be moved to new teams, Ric goes Dr. Phil about what might have caused two longtime friends like Isaiah Thomas and K-Love to fall out.

Ryan, on the otherhand, literally takes a chance of starting up his own IT - KLove style beef with Ric as he (Ryan) takes an interview call in the middle of taping this episode, and then takes a second intermission to do something else shortly thereafter.

Ultimately, what you hear is two guys who agree to disagree about how race, culture, and LeBron might have all played a part in the entire Cleveland Cavaliers pre-Trade Deadline drama that sent D Rose, D Wade, Isaiah Thomas, Channing Frye, Jae Crowder, and Iman Shumpert all packing.



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The SwRL is a weekly podcast hosted by Ryan Hollins (NBA player and ESPN LA) and Ric Bucher (SiriusXM and Bleacher Report) covering some of the biggest taboo subjects in sports. From race relations and politics, to fake news and behind the scenes drama, nothing is off limits on this no nonsense, serious - but comical sports show.
Produced by: Shaine Freeman


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RIC BUCHER is a veteran NBA radio and TV host/analyst, and Sr. Writer for Bleacher Report. With more than 27 years covering the NBA and more, Ric is highly regarded as one of the best in the business. Bucher can be heard daily on SiriusXM's Mad Dog Sports Radio, and every Friday on SiriusXM's NBA channel. Ric Bucher is also a NYT best-selling author. For more about Ric, visit his website -

RYAN HOLLINS is a professional basketball player whose career includes 10-years in the NBA and a short stint playing in overseas. Ryan was selected 50th overall in the 2006 NBA Draft by the Charlotte Bobcats (now Hornets). He can be heard as an on-air personality at ESPN's Los Angeles station ESPN LA 710AM. Visit his website at



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